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partridge60 · Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

Ive been a member of NOBS Forum for some time and dont post but often read the posts on it and find them very useful and informative.
I want to get into beating and dont have a dog yet and will happily pay my money - afterall its only a fiver- to NOBS when I do and they will get me started on the right tracks.
When I get my dog I shall need help with training and NOBS run courses to help people and also beaters courses.
All you people here seem to want to do is run NOBS down and it seems very petty and nasty to me when people are trying to help others join in beating on shoots.
I overheard someone on the NOBS stand at a recent show mention getitorfyerchest so I thought Id have a look, seems you all have axes to grind and are just bitter and twisted and its just a forum to have a go at NOBS.

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superman · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 22 Location: midlands

nobody on here is against the principle of nobs.when scott and mark started it off every thing was finethen other people got involved untill at the present time all it seems to do is charge for every thing it can although they say that they are a charitable site .no one can see any signs off this,whereas every thing on here is free.you pays your money and takes your chance

Stoatly Different · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:18 am Post subject:

I could not agree more that NOBS first principle was an admirable one.
To find beating for those who otherwise could not find it for themselves.
Sadly due to slack management and lack of resolve a minority took over the forum and used it to further their own ends resulting in many personal agendas and misuse of privilege and position.
I raised this issue repeatedly directly with Mark Elliot but sadly his response, when you actually got one, was ineffective and weak. Thus the Indians began running the reservation until finally even the founder washed his hands of it all and left it to a very paranoid and devisive bunch to destroy and bring it in to disrepute.

It is such a criminal waste of a great platform to promote fieldsports and bring our fantastic way of life to the reach of those on the outside.
Those responsible are mostly wannabes and Walter Mitty types who foolishly pushed their own agendas, banned or aliented the genuine and knowledgeable and snubbed the very people able to provide the openings they so desperately needed to place beaters on real shoots.

Some very supportive members with a wealth of experience and contacts were lost, some to other forums where even there the paranoid new face of NOBS made efforts to disrupt and destroy. The few who remained were gagged and ostracised if they dare speak out against the new regime.

I would fully support NOBS if they would only have the strength of character to be open and honest and once again genuinely attempt to promote and enhance access to the world of beating.

PuBS is an uneccesary site
Sporting Countryside and latterly following its corruption by the detractors from NOBS, Shooting Community, was an uneccesary site.
getit is an uneccesary site.

None of these would ever have been formed if only an honest, open and fairly run site had existed on NOBS.

Sadly this was not the case and it will be a stain on the record of our whole community for ever that such a noble and valuable opportunity was squandered by petty ego's and paranoia at being discovered for many discrepancies.
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I think Stoatly has put the situation even better than what i could but then hes an eddicated sort
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Stoatly Different · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject:

I know exactly what you are saying.
There are many cases on SC, in both its formats, of very genuine and generous members spontaneously assisting newbies/novices and there is much very valuable and freely offered advice, most of which is good and helpful. Much of the help is tangible, not just forum based which is brilliant.
Certainly there is nobody posting on there for personal gain or gratification and it has a very pleasant atmosphere and I have very rarely seen any unpleasantness creeping in.

My point was that had NOBS been run correctly none of these other organisations/forums would have been needed, not any criticism of them.
I am certainly pleased both SC's existed as it shows the genuine and good hearted souls are out there.
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partridge60 · Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

Obviously some people will disagree with the operation of any organisation and I think I can detect a bit of envy and maybe even sour grapes.
NOBS will flourish long after any other site because it is working and putting people on shoots.
When i get my pup and train him then NOBS will find me shoots to go to.
Thats what the packet says
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superman · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 22 Location: midlands

if i was you partridge i would take off those rose tinted glasses and blinkers and take a proper look at nobs.why do you think so many nobs members came to the pubs and getit sites?.its because nobs is failing to do what it says on the packet as you put it

Mally · Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 12